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CLICK THIS LINK TO VIEW FULL YOUTUBE VIDEO OF ATTORNEY MELCHING & MAYOR MANN BREAKING THE LAW

UPDATE: PRESS ENTERPRISE: FRIDAY 13, 2015: CASSIE MACDUFF: KEEPING ORDER? LOOKED MORE LIKE A CLAMPDOWN TO ME.  Well, I’ve watched two different videos of what happened that night several times, and it sure looks to me like they clamped down because they didn’t like what Katie Minnear and Vivian Moreno were saying, not because of some imaginary decorum violation.  If anyone breached decorum, it was City Attorney Jeff Melching, not the two women.  The people have an ironclad right to seek redress of grievance from their government.  Read the U.S. Constitution.  It’s right there.  It’s also in the California Constitution that the citizens have the right to “instruct” their public officials – and the Brown Act describes the platform: public meetings.

“Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.” [Special Message to the Congress on the Internal Security of the United States, August 8, 1950]” ― Harry S. Truman, 33rd President of United States.harry-s-truman-via-abcnews-go-comAgain Mayor Mann, “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” – Harry S. Truman  Therefore, Mayor Mann, you shouldn’t have taken the job if you were unwilling to take on the pressures.

On Wednesday February 4, 2015 City Attorney Jeffrey Melching attempted to correct Riverside Advocate Vivian Moreno regarding a point of decorum when addressing the Mayor and Counsel. Moreno brought up case law Baca vs. Moreno Valley Unified School District in order to correct City Attorney. Incidentally, Mayor Mann said he was familiar with the case.  But again, Mayor Scott Mann did not care for Moreno addressing him as a “bully” which led to her being escorted out of Council Chambers. Mayor Scott Mann for years has been denying the taxpayers of Menifee their First Amendment right to free speech.  We were told later that they usually only have one sheriff’s deputy at council, they had two because they knew Moreno was coming.  Round one, let’s see who wins this…  Moreno stated to the Mayor Mann, ‘there is nothing that incensus me more than a Mayor who is a “bully.”‘  Somewhere in the Council Chambers, someone exclaimed, “Don’t you dare!” While Moreno was addressing council and defending her first amendment rights.  Melching made comments toward Moreno that she was “displaying boisterous behavior.”  Later Melching publicly made the comment toward Mayor Mann that “she’s making a scene.”

New word, “Incensus”..to be set on fire..

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The people of the State of California do enact as follows:

SECTION 1. Section 54954.3 of the Government Code is amended to read:

(c) (1) Subject to reasonable regulations promulgated pursuant to subdivision (b), the legislative body of a local agency, or its presiding officer or staff, acting in their official capacity on behalf of the legislative body, shall not prohibit, limit, or otherwise prevent any of the following:
(B) Comment by a member of the public during presentation of an agenda item who has not provided notice of his or her desire to comment prior to consideration of the agenda item by the legislative body.
(C) Comment by a member of the public based on his or her viewpoint where the comment is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body.
(2) If a legislative body limits the total amount of time allocated for public testimony on a particular issue or for each individual speaker, the questioning or interrupting of the speaker by the legislative body, its officers or employees, and the speaker’s response to questioning shall not reduce the total time allocated for public testimony on the particular issue or allocated for an individual speaker.
(3) This subdivision shall not be construed to confer any privilege or protection for expression beyond that otherwise provided by law.
Prior to this Community Advocate Katy Minnear addressed Council but was stopped to be lectured by Menifee City Attorney Jeffrey Melching.  Mr. Melching stated to Ms. Minnear that “she you need to focus your comment to the council as a whole, that doesn’t forbid you from using a specific persons name,. but it does forbid you from speaking directly to that person instead of the policy making body that is before you.”  So by happenstance, if you sort of appear to look at one of council or mayor while addressing the issue at hand to that particular person, you just violated Menifee decorum.  To boot, it may just get you kicked out.  Sorry Melching, bad move, you are not running the meeting, that may just get you a bar complaint.

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CLICK THIS LINK TO VIEW FULL YOUTUBE VIDEO OF MENIFEE CITY ATTORNEY JEFF MELCHING BREAKING THE LAW

UPDATE: 02.04.2015: 11:30PM: WE ARE GETTING EMAILS STATING THAT THIS BEHAVIOR BY MENIFEE COUNCIL IS NOT UNCOMMON AND HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.  INTIMIDATION OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS IS KEY AND THE THREAT OF RETALIATION KEEPS THE GREATER POPULATION FROM THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO APPEAR AND PUBLICLY SPEAK.  Again what we have is a failure to communicate, and a community which has given power to elects, only to be told they have no right to criticize them.  Only in foreign countries do we see this type of behavior, what Menifee Council and Mayor forget to remember is our roots as a country.  Power as such is given by a vote of the people, it can be very well be taken away by a vote of the people through the recall process.  Let’s not forget, your employer is the taxpayer.

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MAYOR SCOTT MANN                               CITY ATTORNEY JEFF MELCHING

Was Mayor Scott Mann’s home repossessed after drawing money against the property?  Is he now living in a property that developer allowed him to live in?

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 Well for many residents in the City of Menifee, who wish to remain silent, as they say for fear of retaliation, the following above pic says it all…..  Well TMC’s personal note for Stone, if you impersonate a law enforcement officer you get to become Senator.  A “picture tells a thousand words.”  Unfortunately his a bad example for one of the most trusted professions in America, the “Pharmacist.”

UPDATE:02.05.2015: PRESS ENTERPRISE STORY REGARDING INCIDENT IN THE CITY OF MENIFEE.  TAXPAYER ADVOCATE VIVIAN MORENO ESCORTED OUT OF COUNCIL CHAMBER AFTER USING HER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OF 3 MINUTES TO DISCUSS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

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“The decorum policy says in paragraph four that … people shall not act in a disorderly manner, or engage in conduct that disrupts, disturbs or otherwide impedes the orderly conduct of a city council meeting,” said Melching. “And that’s precisely what was happening.”  Our response is that council did not like the message, and Moreno was interrupted, the City Attorney Melching and Mayor Mann baited Moreno and escalated the debate between the two.  Calling the mayor a “bully” was not acting in a disorderly manner, or engaging in conduct that disrupts, disturbs or otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of a city council meeting.  Council created a situation that should not have occurred.  In addition their understanding of their own policy violates public speakers rights.  According to Menifee residents Mayor Mann has been suppressing their rights to speak openly for years.  As indicated in the above second video, City Attorney Melching interrupts public speaker Minnear for the mere perception that she was conspicuously focusing her attention on one member of Council. We are talking about a pattern of behavior by council.

UPDATE: 02.05.2015: A SEPTEMBER 2014 STORY: MENIFEE RESIDENT ANNE PICA ACCUSES MAYOR SCOTT MANN OF CAMPAIGN VIOLATIONS:  Speaking during the public comments portion of Wednesday’s city council meeting, resident Anne Pica accused Mann of paying for the printing of 2,000 fliers including negative comments against his opponent for mayor, Darcy Kuenzi, and city council candidate Sue Kristjansson in the 2012 election.

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At the time Deputy Mayor Wallace Edgerton, who conducted the meeting in 2012, responded to Pica’s comments by asking city attorney Jeffrey Melching about potential legal implications of those comments. Melching said he would not directly address the issue because it was a matter between two individuals and not the city itself.  Again, what appears to be another incident to attempt to silence residents, by the threat of a legal avenue.  Again no way to treat the taxpayer, you are not in charge, the taxpayer is, and that’s, that.

So did City of Menifee Mayor Scot Mann and City Attorney Jeffrey Melching blow it?

PART THREE STORY IN THE PASADENA INDEPENDENT REFERENCING BACA VS. MORENO VALLEY BY VIVIAN MORENO AT PASADENA CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 2, 2015.  MARILYN WHITNEY ALSO PUBLICLY SPEAKS REGARDING AG PARK TOXIC SPILL IN THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE.

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It’s been a busy week for Vivian she is taking tomorrow off… I take that back, I was just informed she has one more meeting tomorrow morning.

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VIVIAN MORENO                                                        MARILYN WHITNEY

TMC, RATED RIVERSIDE’S MOST “OFFENSIVE,” “INAPPROPRIATE,” “HURTFUL,” “MEAN SPIRITED,” “DISTASTEFUL,” “EMBARRASSING,” HORIFFIC,” “SLANDEROUS” AND MEZZSPELLED, “MISSPELLED” AND “OPINIONATED” BLOG SITE!  TEMPORARILY BLOCKED BY THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE AT PUBLIC ACCESS SITES WITHIN THE CITY, THEN UNBLOCKED.  I GUESS YOU CANNOT DO THAT ACCORDING TO THE ACLU.  RATED ONE TWO ONE STAR OUT OF FIVE IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY APPROVAL RATINGS..  TMC IS NOW EXCLUSIVLY EXCLUSIVELY ON FILE WITH THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE’S DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE (WE BELIEVE THIS WILL END SOON, SINCE THE FOCUS IS NOW ON THE IMPROPRIETIES OF MR. “Z”, WE TRIED TO TELL YOU, BUT NOBODY LISTENED), AND DON’T FORGET WE ARE PROSSIBLY POSSIBLY ON FILE WITH THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE’S POTENTIAL SLAPP SUIT LIST… A STRATEGIC LEGAL MANEUVER THAT CAN BE DONE ONLY IN RIVERSIDE WITHOUT A CONTRACT… AGAIN, THANK-YOU COMMUNITY OF RIVERSIDE AND THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE EMPLOYEE’S FOR YOUR SUPPORT!   COMMENTS ALWAYS WELCOMED, ESPECIALLY SPELL CHECKERS!  WE JUST CAN’T SPELL!  EMAIL ANONYMOUSLY WITH YOUR DIRT BY CONTACTING US AT:   THIRTYMILESCORRUPTION@HOTMAIL.COM

Comments
  1. ewhite233 says:

    Scott Mann believes in WRCOG. unless your people understand it you lose. western riverside council of governments. call me if you don’t understand. 3038884   From: TMC: Thirty Miles of Corruption To: ernie@jamiekinney.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:05 PM Subject: [New post] CITY OF MENIFEE: MAYOR SCOTT MANN VS. TAXPAYER ADVOCATE VIVIAN MORENO

  2. ewhite233 says:

    Scott Mann just became the CHAIRMAN of the Riverside County Republican Party.  From: TMC: Thirty Miles of Corruption To: ernie@jamiekinney.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:05 PM Subject: [New post] CITY OF MENIFEE: MAYOR SCOTT MANN VS. TAXPAYER ADVOCATE VIVIAN MORENO #yiv9963550016 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv9963550016 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv9963550016 a.yiv9963550016primaryactionlink:link, #yiv9963550016 a.yiv9963550016primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv9963550016 a.yiv9963550016primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv9963550016 a.yiv9963550016primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv9963550016 WordPress.com | thirtymiles posted: “CLICK THIS LINK TO VIEW FULL YOUTUBE VIDEOOn Wednesday February 4, 2015 City Attorney Jeffrey Malching attempted to correct Riverside Advocate Vivian Moreno regarding a point of decorum when addressing the Mayor and Counsel. Moreno brought up case law” | |

  3. Troy Hopkins says:

    vivian moreno,, I sure hope you sue their asses DO NOT LET THAT COUNSEL GET AWAY WITH THAT,, i’m behind you all the way . i too have things to say but i assure you it’s not nice and i will not stand for their bull s*** when it comes to our civil rights…

    • Anne Pica says:

      I agree with Troy Hopkins sue the city of Menifee. Scott Mann is a bully and he proved that On Feb. 5, 2015 when he had the city Attorney try to shut Vivian Moreno down and to top it off the Riverside County Sheriff deputy walked both Vivian and her husband out of the meeting and into the parking lot and told them they had to get off Public Property or be arrested. Even the Sheriff’s deputy was breaking the law and lying. The Attorney was full of crap when he said to Kathy Minnear another public speaker that she was not allowed to address individual council members as it was against their decorum policy. This guy needs to go back to law school cause that is not what the state law says. Sue them Vivian

  4. Katie Minnear says:

    It has been said over and over that Scott Mann is a bully and nothing has changed. He needs to be stopped. The citizens have a right to speak whether he likes it or not. We need the citizens to band together. It takes an army and we need one to fight against what is being done at city hall. Beware of the new taxes being levied and hope your area is not next in their scheme.

  5. Barney jensen says:

    WHY DOES MENIFEE HAVE NO TAX EXEMPTION’S FOR SENIOR CITIZENS,DISABLED VETERANS.MenifeeLLMD 89-1-C ZN37 and Menifee CSA 86? They will tax us out of homes soon,Watch 0ut for SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS they sneak them in.Signed Both above.

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